Friday, 10 July 2009

  • "Fear on the Street is Palpable" Thoughts of an Officer


    A chilling, thought provoking letter from a veteran police officer


    Via Email
    Scott Wagner
    July 10, 2009

    Scott Wagner is a Police Academy Commander and Professor at Columbus State Community College in Columbus Ohio, and Commander of the 727 Counter Terror Training Unit. A 29 year law enforcement veteran, and current Deputy Sheriff, he is the Precision Marksman for the Union County Sheriff’s Office SRT Team.

    "The fear on the street is palpable to anyone who is paying attention. Ever since the election of Barack Obama as President of these United States in November 2008, coupled with the election of a democrat party majority in both the U.S. House and Senate, concern for the United States and personal safety has ignited like a fire in dry grass.

    Sales of guns – black guns, rifles, shotguns and handguns (particularly 9mm) everywhere, have gone through the roof. AR15s have literally flown off of dealer shelves, and only now in the spring of 2009, have I seen the display samples of ARs begin to reappear on the wall of my favorite shooting emporium after the initial post election rush. Manufacturers of ARs are still working to catch up and some of the major suppliers are as much as 150,000 guns behind. Not only that, ammo is in the shortest supply I have ever seen in the 43 years of my shooting life. Have you recently tried to get 5.56mm, 9mm or even 380 ammo?

    Supplies of 5.56mm and 9mm ammo are in short supply due to the black gun buying craze; .380ACP because of the rise in people getting concealed carry permits and the resurgence of interest in convenient 380 handguns like the fine Ruger LCP. In fact, in doing a review of the Ruger LCP, my gun store only had a small supply of ONE .380 round on hand, the Winchesters 95-grain SXT, which they had just gotten in. Unfortunately, I had to do a 30-round review of that pistol. There was none other to be found.

    What is odd about this new fear is that it is not coming from the average citizen gun owner out there, but it is coming from what to me is an almost shocking source: street cops.

    Street cops and SWAT cops that I know from various agencies – rural, suburban and metro – in my area are scared. Cops that before November 2008 never gave much thought (that I knew of anyway) to politics or more importantly to gun rights. For the most part, these are the guys that didn’t generally have any interest in shooting or gun ownership beyond keeping track of where their duty gun is, and a few of them didn’t even do that so well.

    The guys I am talking about now are some of the same guys who used to not even carry off duty on a regular basis- but not anymore. They don’t scare easily, defenders of the Constitution of this State and the United States (as our oath of office reads), have been buying ARs, survival gear, and all the ammo they can lay their hands on. All of them (or I should say “us”) have been discussing and have been acquiring guns to provide a layered perimeter defense.

    What are we suddenly so afraid of? Well in our discussions it seems to boil down to four areas.

    First, fear of federal government intrusion into our lives. Every time I look at or listen to the news, there is something new and intrusive coming out of the Obama administration and this Congress. New tax schemes, government-run Canadian-style healthcare, a volunteer citizen defense force (whatever that is, what happened to the National Guard?) equipped with funding similar to our military, forced voluntary “service” after retirement, a lack of a southern border with hordes of illegal and criminal aliens pouring over our border, the swine flu scare as well as government forced closing of thousands of privately held Chrysler and GM dealerships, which will be the final nail in the coffin for these companies and the list goes on and on.

    But these items in the news are just the tip of the iceberg. We can’t see the full impact of these actions yet, but we don’t know what was added into the thousand of pages of stimulus package bills in the dead of night yet. I predict however that when the plans contained in the stimulus packages go into effect, a lot of us are going to be surprised if not shocked by what has suddenly and sweepingly changed.

    What also scares us is the second, well-founded fear that there is an assault weapons ban looming, one that would make the Clinton Ban appear like a look of disdain in comparison. I remember well the 1990s and the Clinton years: the rise of militia groups, the “black helicopter” rumors and paranoia, all of which was motivated by the Brady Law and the Assault Weapon’s ban. What if a new ban comes requiring registration or confiscation and turn-in of banned weapons as what happened in Australia?

    …I foresee much civil disobedience coming down the road. Americans are citizens, and not subjects like the British, Canadians or Australians. They just don’t always obey the law blindly and not one officer or citizen that I spoke to said anything like “I hope I get to keep this gun for awhile before they are banned; They are fun to shoot, so I would hate to give it up.” It isn’t going to happen, so the cop on the street and the soldier on the base needs to think now what he will do if the orders come down. I think you all get what I am saying here.

    Which leads me to the third fear, that there is a revolution coming, yes, a revolution on the scale of the original American Revolution. You can hear this topic discussed on many of the talk radio shows by even the big name hosts. The possib ility of an armed revolution against the U.S. government being discussed, albeit very gingerly and fleetingly and as something to be avoided, which it is. I never heard this mentioned in the 90s. One of my quietest, low profile officer friends brought it up the other day.

    He said that at some point in the near future, he felt there is going to be an armed revolt if things keep going the way they are. Something has got to give. I was shocked. Yes, I had heard this from some of my more radical cop friends in the past, but to hear it from a guy like this was unprecedented. Now, these guys are not saying this will happen to foment revolution, preach sedition or to even participate. They just want to be ready if it happens, to at least defend their families, because number four on the fear list is general societal chaos.

    Cops fear for their parents, wives, children or grandchildren more now than ever before. Most cops are encouraging their spouses and loved ones to get concealed carry permits. Not only that, but some of these same cops are buying gun mounts for their personal cars so they can carry an AR in the family ride at the ready all the time. They are also strapping on heavier forms of off-duty hardware. I have other friends that are issued ARs or subguns for tactical team use, who always have their gear with them and are planning on just commandeering these weapons for personal use in defending hearth and home.

    Final Notes

    This is pretty heady and maybe even dangerous stuff. Know fully that I am not advocating anything here. I am reflecting to you what I see and hear going on around me, and maybe saying things that haven’t been said in the open, until now. It is something to think about."




Comments (59)

  • antisoccermom

    This society is built on fear. That alone is terrifying.

    The american public is blinded by social indifference. I will not stand for it in my home. This was intense girl, and scary.

  • animecrazedfool

    I threw this on twitter.

  • radicalramblings
  • xplodinglastbullet

    First of all, everything the government signs into law can be found on whitehouse.gov. The government is not ashamed to show their deeds anymore with the Freedom of Information Act that Obama signed into law. They no longer fear an uprising. It's easy to find any bill you want to find. 

  • XDaemonessX

    This is scary.  Very scary.

  • AnamcharaConcepts

    @xplodinglastbullet - And how many people bother to take the time to go in and read every one of them? Our legislators don't even bother reading what they vote on most of the time. Do you know what they all say?


    That was an impressive letter. Thanks for sharing it. More food for thought.

  • TheBigShowAtUD

    scared people with guns - regular people AND cops - scare me.  

  • buddly47

    I've had a concealed carry permit for 8 years now, and I do carry. Everywhere. There is an ammo shortage right now, unlike any I've seen. There's a lot of truth in what he said, most people don't realize how bad it can get. Or how quickly it can get that way.

  • xplodinglastbullet

    @AnamcharaConcepts - I have spent a good deal of time perusing some of the larger bills that have been passed. The Patriot Act, for one, has to be the single most illegal bill passed. Stripping away the rights of due process. I did take some time to review Obama's Recovery and Reinvestment Act. Alot of money going to alot of things and least of all to job creation. It was the exact opposite of what he made it out to be.

  • ShamelesslyRed

    @xplodinglastbullet - Yes, which is was given the seemingly innocuous title of Patriot Act.  The average person, goes "what could be bad about anything called the 'Patriot Act'?". Thousands of pages though..who knows whats in the stimulus bills..worse, the climate reform package which was amended at 3:09 am on a friday with an additional 300 plus pages. Thats exactly how every piece of crap laws are passed, in the dead of night, under the radar of the public, with a demand for a vote within 24 hours. It's exactly how the Federal reserve was established here in 1913 

  • firetyger

    This is food for thought.  I am not one to act out of fear.  But I've always been a stout gun supporter and believe that a country only remains free so long as it's citizens carry their own weapons to defend themselves. 

    The hubby and I have been discussing this a lot lately ourselves.

  • xplodinglastbullet

    @ShamelesslyRed - Which is why the people need to wise up and get their self educated. Of course the bills are lengthy and they are written in such a way as to deter the average human from taking out 4 or 5 hours of their life to peruse it. However, it's not all that difficult to understand if you actually dedicate yourself to it. Take advantage of the government's cockiness and read the bills they pass. Get the word out against things that are unconstitutional or illegal. Help the people understand the things their representatives are doing against the will of the people in this supposed "Democratic" society. Don't give in to preprogramming and typical human nature. All our lives are at stake.

  • apyus
    Tag you're it!
  • ShamelesslyRed

    @xplodinglastbullet - Hence the reason for this blog. Think my header speaks for itself? :)
    We are the information revolution, and I personally will wage this revolution "for display purposes only" until the day comes that it's time to take to the streets as Patriots who will stand up for our nation...we won't be alone. MLK is my personal hero (one of them). He knew that freedom was worth everything. And he was willing to risk it all to obtain that which belongs to all men/women.

  • xplodinglastbullet

    @ShamelesslyRed - Aye. I feel it's best to encourage people to read this stuff on their own. I predict, and I could be wrong, that when a Revolution of this magnitude takes place, there will be people out there taking advantage of the situation just to promote their own idealism and desires and not the true purpose behind the revolt. If people are educated and know what it is they are fighting for, things like this can easily be diverted. As with banks, there are always people who promote both sides of the war. 

  • ShamelesslyRed

    @AnamcharaConcepts - certainly gives me more to think about too. I think I get stuck in this world of feeling like "we're the only ones" who can feel it and see what's happening. This letter was an eye opener to how patently false my perception was

  • villainwasright

    What are black guns?  

  • iccgomani
  • villainwasright

    I need a little help here.  My ADD is getting in the way.  The writer and the cops are afraid of a civil disobedience from the likes of us?  Or are they concerned about the government "gun grabbing" thus causing civil disobedience.  Who or what are the cops afraid of?

  • ShamelesslyRed

    @villainwasright - the government, it's orders to them, and knowing a revolution is on it's way

  • villainwasright

    @villainwasright - Upon a second reading I get it, except for some of the gun speak.  It is about reading the signs.  Weapon sales up dramatically, manufacturers struggling to keep up.  Ammo scarce.  The "break-neck" pace set by Obama to get bills passed without allowing time for them to be read.  What is in these bills?  The non stop apology tour with nations that are, or should be our enemies.  Connecting the dots spells danger.  How will the guns be used?

  • ShamelesslyRed

    @antisoccermom - December, I stand in a a surreal place, of knowing this stuff is happening, yet my head spins in disbelief at the same time. Here's another wake up call. Did you know the Philadelphia Inquirer wrote an article this week about legislation in the state that banned the use of RFID chips being implanted in humans?? I'm thinking, "omg, how telling it is when a state has to ban the citizenry being chipped by the federal govt or any other company who may work for the Federal govt!" ---life is getting wonkier than fiction

  • villainwasright

    @ShamelesslyRed - I don't believe the police will follow orders that will endanger innocent citizens.  Unless it occurs gradually.

  • villainwasright

    Slightly off-topic but worth knowing.  The IRS is doing a mass hiring for agents and investigators.  The largest number of agents since it's inception.  Sounds like a lot of auditing will be going on.  I wonder who will be the targets the agents choose to audit.

  • PunkDiva

    @xplodinglastbullet - Sure they put it online once it is signed into law, how about letting us read it before it is voted on, like someone in the oval office promised during his campaign?

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